Re: What's the biggest mistake you've ever done in self-bond

The only place you could get away with it is FetishCon. But even there I didn't do it.
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boundBinder wrote:Alas, the reality is, that it can get you into a LOT of trouble, legally. :(
LockedInALocker wrote:boundBinder wrote:Alas, the reality is, that it can get you into a LOT of trouble, legally.
Self-bondage can get you into legal trouble? How? Although being caught in self-bondage may be very embarrassing, I didn't think it was illegal in most countries.
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boundBinder wrote:If the maid or the hotel decided to sue, and it comes out that you deliberately set yourself up to be "caught by the maid", yes. You can get into deep, hot water, legally...hence my initial comment of, "It is a REALLY fun fantasy. I've had many fantasies along those lines, and read stories of many more", that was in response to the previous poster's final comment of, "Being found by the maid is a fun fantasy but I don't think I would want it to come true".
LockedInALocker wrote:boundBinder wrote:If the maid or the hotel decided to sue, and it comes out that you deliberately set yourself up to be "caught by the maid", yes. You can get into deep, hot water, legally...hence my initial comment of, "It is a REALLY fun fantasy. I've had many fantasies along those lines, and read stories of many more", that was in response to the previous poster's final comment of, "Being found by the maid is a fun fantasy but I don't think I would want it to come true".
But, even in that situation where you are found by a maid: unless there are laws I'm completely ignorant of, I wouldn't still have seen legal problems - just severe embarrassment. After all, the maid entered a room without permission and little or no warning where the occupant could have had a reasonable expectation of privacy. If it was set up deliberately to be found by the maid, I don't see how anyone could prove that was the intention.
LockedInALocker wrote: And I'd have thought that a rational response by the maid upon entering (without permission) and seeing the situation, would be perhaps to say, "Are you all right?" And if the person in bondage gestured that they were okay, the sensible response on the maid's part would be along the lines of, "Sorry to disturb you", and to leave.
LockedInALocker wrote: If that's not how it would in fact go, what am I missing about this? If the maid or hotel sued, what would the grounds be?
LockedInALocker wrote: If I were in that situation of unwittingly intruding on a self-bondage scene, I would have only two thoughts in my mind, neither of which would remotely make me think of legal action: 1. Is the person all right? Do they need help? 2. (after seeing that no help was needed) Embarrassment at having stumbled on an obviously private situation; I would just quietly withdraw and say nothing to anyone.
Why would anyone sue in a situation like that? I am genuinely puzzled.
boundBinder wrote:Sexual harassment laws--at least in the United States--are regularly being given a broader and broader definition,
boundBinder wrote:[...] so it would not be outside the realm of possibility for a maid to at least TRY to litigate, once she figured out that you did it to yourself.
boundBinder wrote:People have sued other people in this country for less, and won--the case of the burglar that broke into a home, tripped over something and hurt himself, and successfully sued the home owner for a large settlement. There is another case where someone was on someone else's roof to break in through the skylight, fell through said skylight, and--yes--sued and won.
boundBinder wrote:That SHOULD be the response, if it were accidental [...] If they are a litigious type, someone easily "triggered", someone looking to make a quick buck, or just someone who is generally misogynist/misandrist, then the lawyers get called.
boundBinder wrote:Yeah, but you're a good and decent person. Not everyone is.
LockedInALocker wrote: Thanks for your explanation, boundBinder. I guess I sort of understand what you are saying, although it seems pretty weird to me, and it seems I severely overestimated what an action takes to be deemed sexual harassment.
LockedInALocker wrote: I suppose it's an illustration of how super-sensitive and super-touchy and politically correct everyone is these days. I grew up at a time when this was not in the least an issue, and people had common sense, and didn't always have an eye out for suing anyone. (Also, I'm in Australia, and maybe such things are slightly less intense here, although I'm not sure.)
LockedInALocker wrote: But, still, I wonder: if the maid enters the room without being invited, and with almost no notice, would she be in a good position to bring action anyway? I mean, if I were in a hotel or motel room with the door locked, I would have a complete expectation of privacy, and if someone used a key to enter without knocking or waiting for permission, I don't see how that is anything other than that person's problem if they don't like what they see. (When staying in hotels or motels, I always put the "Do not disturb" sign on the outside of the door, even though I never do self-bondage in such places. I don't even like staff entering to service a room when I am not there, and prefer to do things myself. I suppose the expectation of privacy might be a bit less if you hadn't left that sign outside.)
LockedInALocker wrote: In other words, blatant gold-digging.
LockedInALocker wrote: How sad that that should be the norm one must assume to operate.
LockedInALocker wrote: Thank you for your kind thought. I suppose, since I have my own areas of kink, I think it makes me very much more sympathetic to, and understanding of, other kinds of kink, even when it's not an interest I share myself or (occasionally) may even be personally repelled by.