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Remote controlled vibrators

Unread postby cgwm » Fri Feb 10, 2017 9:24 pm

Hi folks,

i just wondered if some of you are as well interested in remotely controlled vibrators? They might add some little funky fun to your bondage games when somebody else just makes you come without even touching you :D

As some of you might already know there are quite a few different versions around like

  • vibro bullets with some cables attached and a small box with a button that can be pressed by yourself or somebody else.
  • really remote controlled bullets that connect to a remote via radio or bluetooth. I somehow prefer those, since you can give the remote to somebody else to make you vibe without having control by yourself.
Downside to the remotes is (as far as i read from reviews and by trying some for myself) that the range of the remote is rather bad. They say it can work over 10m, but most of the time it even doesn't work in a 1 or 2m range, which makes it useless somehow, because the controller has to be right beside you.

Another "problem" is that you always need somebody to "help" you with operating the remote so you can get some fun out of it.

With all those downsides I though about a little project using an small computer called arduino and some remote with it to at least control one of those vibro bullets.

Some of the funny features:

  • can still be remotely controlled, with rather good range (even over one or two floors in the house or >10-20m on free field
  • can be used to randomly start the vibrating egg for random lenghts of time and random vibrating pattern. In between it stops for random time, so you never know when and with what pattern it will start next. Thats perfect for self bondage :D
  • has some predefined startup time, to let you know it waits for starting the random sequence (so you won't get too aroused while tying yourself up)
So the question is: Would some of you be interested in such a kind of toy and if yes, what should the features be?

I'd gladly start a little conversation about that topic :D

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Re: Remote controlled vibrators

Unread postby justDIY » Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:15 pm

I've dabbled a bit with this, and it's interestingly complex.


What I've run into is:

1. Cheap vibrator motors are very noisy electrically, causing the controller to malfunction or lock up.

2. Power sources are complicated, what happened to the Samsung 7 phone, don't want that happening near my nether regions. Make it rechargeable but still waterproof?

3. Radio frequencies don't penetrate our bodies easily, hence the limited range.

4. Biggest issue is the enclosure. I'd want cast silicone or a bio-compatible plastic but have no idea how to work with the materials.

I'd be happy to bat ideas back and forth with you.
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Re: Remote controlled vibrators

Unread postby MelbourneDom » Sat Feb 11, 2017 11:18 pm

I designed and made one of these in 2003 - where have those years gone!?

I used an "egg" similar to this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Single-Silver-B ... SwUKxYgUKY
Cut off and throw away the controller and supply 3V from your remote controlled source.

A 433MHz key fob with two buttons and a basic receiver provided the remote aspect and for the egg controller I made a small circuit board and used a PIC microcontroller and a MOSFET to switch the egg. I wrote the software in C and provided three egg speeds, using PWM, and one random mode - the random mode is fun :)

Range is about 50m outdoor and around 15m indoors. The unit runs from 2 x AA cells.

My submissive once created much confusion in Office Works as we walked around the store and every time I changed the egg speed she started, sometime abruptly, and made "Aaaaarrrggg" like sounds :)

I'm happy to release the hardware design and software if anyone would like it - but, in reality, you will need a reasonable knowledge of embedded software to understand it.
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Re: Remote controlled vibrators

Unread postby cgwm » Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:12 pm

Hi there,

first of all thanks for the replies so far!



justDIY wrote:I've dabbled a bit with this, and it's interestingly complex.
What I've run into is:

1. Cheap vibrator motors are very noisy electrically, causing the controller to malfunction or lock up.
2. Power sources are complicated, what happened to the Samsung 7 phone, don't want that happening near my nether regions. Make it rechargeable but still waterproof?
3. Radio frequencies don't penetrate our bodies easily, hence the limited range.
4. Biggest issue is the enclosure. I'd want cast silicone or a bio-compatible plastic but have no idea how to work with the materials.
I'd be happy to bat ideas back and forth with you.


Hi justDIY,

you are absolutely right with your comments so far. Thats the reason why i went the way of using already existing vibro eggs, instead of creating my own, so to make sure the enclosure issue is already addressed by other companies.
This way i could care about controlling them instead of trying to create something for myself.

I used something like this and did it like MelbourneDom below: Just cut of the stupid controller and replaced it with my own arduino style.

another option would be the remote bluetooth controlled egg like this one and try to control it via arduino and bluetooth...

MelbourneDom wrote:I designed and made one of these in 2003 - where have those years gone!?

I used an "egg" similar to this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Single-Silver-B ... SwUKxYgUKY
Cut off and throw away the controller and supply 3V from your remote controlled source.

A 433MHz key fob with two buttons and a basic receiver provided the remote aspect and for the egg controller I made a small circuit board and used a PIC microcontroller and a MOSFET to switch the egg. I wrote the software in C and provided three egg speeds, using PWM, and one random mode - the random mode is fun :)

Range is about 50m outdoor and around 15m indoors. The unit runs from 2 x AA cells.

My submissive once created much confusion in Office Works as we walked around the store and every time I changed the egg speed she started, sometime abruptly, and made "Aaaaarrrggg" like sounds :)

I'm happy to release the hardware design and software if anyone would like it - but, in reality, you will need a reasonable knowledge of embedded software to understand it.


yeah, all those years.. i know what you mean ;-)

The bullet you used looks more or less the same that i used, i also thought it might be a better solution for the beginning.
And i as well used PWM in combination with a MOSFET to controll that whole thing. thats the only way to go i guess... i just use the arduino instead of any other microcontroller, but thats more or less the same...

I guess the overall setup might be more or less the same, but if you don't care... sure.. why not share it :D

The advantage with the arduino might be, that i could use some bluetooth / radio / whatever receiver to get the thing controlled remotely.

And yes, its the same with your submissive: Its really funny to see / hear the reactions, when those bullets are switched on suddenly, when they talk to somebody :D

one of the things that i still work on is the power supply topic, since both the arduino and the bullet need power. And when connecting the bullet to the arduino nano directly, it does not really work, so i need two power supplies at the moment...

I am thinking about some step-up-converters to be able to use single batteries for both the arduino and the bullet...

Any more ideas?

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Re: Remote controlled vibrators

Unread postby justDIY » Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:28 pm

Oh ok, remote control with an external box, that's a different much easier ball game.

If you're using a five volt arduino, a three volt vibrator won't mind the extra two volts.

If I were building an external control box, I would use an ESP8266 arduino. It runs at 3 volts already, has built in WiFi and it is extremely cheap.
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Re: Remote controlled vibrators

Unread postby Eleven » Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:32 pm

I have a bare experience when it comes to the cheapest vibrator and I swear that I will not buy the same cheap vibrator again. But now I have Lush by lovense and for me this is the best remote control vibrator on the market right now.
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Re: Remote controlled vibrators

Unread postby cgwm » Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:56 pm

Hi again,

justDIY wrote:Oh ok, remote control with an external box, that's a different much easier ball game.

If you're using a five volt arduino, a three volt vibrator won't mind the extra two volts.

If I were building an external control box, I would use an ESP8266 arduino. It runs at 3 volts already, has built in WiFi and it is extremely cheap.


Well, i know the external box approach is probably not the best one, but this way you can make sure your range is way better.

Eleven wrote:I have a bare experience when it comes to the cheapest vibrator and I swear that I will not buy the same cheap vibrator again. But now I have Lush by lovense and for me this is the best remote control vibrator on the market right now.


Ok, didnt know this one.. looks interesting, but seems to have the same limitations as most of those. While sitting, you have something like 5-10 feet range, which is not really cool... and i am pretty sure when you are dressed up, its even worse...

Bought another bluetooth controlled bullet, but even for 2 or 3 feet it might be too much... so it is completely useless for me.

Can you tell me a bit about the one you bought? How is your experience with range?

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Re: Remote controlled vibrators

Unread postby BoundToWait » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:32 pm

Sounds interesting, good idea!
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Re: Remote controlled vibrators

Unread postby Fettler » Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:24 pm

Hi all.
My first post on this forum.

I have one of those wevibe U shaped things and is looses contact all the time, especially when my partner is face down, even with the remote (or phone) right besides.
I suspect all the bluetooth things will be the same.

HOWEVER :D

As I am into the 'Drone' business I have many 'micro' 2.4ghz receivers lying around. They are just about 2cm square. The RC transmitters, as you may imagine are full size hand held things so not for 'going out' with but not a problem by the bed. Some if the smallest 'multirotor' brushless motors are WAY WAY better quality than anything in an existing sex toy. They are almost silent. (the RC car transmitters may be small enough to carry in pocket)

SO
I have built (with 3D printer) something in secret and I am to nervous to show my partner in case she freaks out. It is about 1/2 hitachi wand size, almost silent. On slow speed it is more of a powerful wobble than vibration but when turned up - FECK.
Also my RC transmitter (Frsky taranis) is totally customize-able so any possible vibe pattern is programmable.

Im waiting for some flexible 3D printing filament to arrive so I can make a body forming thing (clit adapter?)

Getting excited about strapping it to my babe but will have to find the right moment.

Am I allowed to post pics on this forum?
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Re: Remote controlled vibrators

Unread postby Petrajane » Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:34 pm

Fettler wrote:Am I allowed to post pics on this forum?


post pictures? Yes, Hell YEAH! :lol:

However, it is important to note, pictures MUST be yours, not linked to or ripped from copyright holders' website etc.
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Re: Remote controlled vibrators

Unread postby Fettler » Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:01 am

Ok so here is he first design, hitachi stlye. Terrible colour I know but was just trying to use the last of the green this is not remote control.

I want to do another with the head on about 50cm of cable and the control unit (handle) separate with a radio receiver.

By the way its quite a challenge to get pics uploaded here, wrong size etc.
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Re: Remote controlled vibrators

Unread postby cgwm » Thu Mar 09, 2017 8:49 am

Hi Fettler,

it really sounds and looks interesting what you are doing.

How big is this whole construction?
And do you have some more information about those motors you were referring to? Did i get it right, that you use those rotor-motors as vibrating motor substitution?

I'd appreciate any answers on this :D

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Re: Remote controlled vibrators

Unread postby Fettler » Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:42 pm

Hi there.
This unit is 23cm long
Yes the motor is the sort used in multirotor (drones). The one I have here is an overlander T2822. Its way bigger than it needs to be but it was the smallest I had lying around. My flywheel is the round green thing and one side is filled with fishing weights and epoxy.
These types of motors are called 'brushless' and require a 'speed controller' (also called ESC). Its the thing in pic that says 30A (also way to powerful). They connect together by 3 wires to the motor. Not expensive, like motor and ESC £30 or less.

The ESC then plugs into your battery of choice and also into something to give the speed signal. In my pic the blue thing is a 'servo tester' and the knob selects the speed but this unit could be replaced by an RC receiver such as this one.https://hobbyking.com/en_us/ks-servo-4ch-frsky-accst-compatible-receiver.html, but of course you then need an RC transmitter. New 'computerized' ones can be programmed to any pattern and strength. You can expect a range of at least 1km.

My battery is a Lithium Polymer, also used on drones. They are light and small but they require a specialist charger. Nicads will be ok.

Hope that helps.

A 3d printer makes many things possible. :lol:
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Re: Remote controlled vibrators

Unread postby Fettler » Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:42 pm

This might make it more clear. Check out how quiet the motors are.

https://youtu.be/_eYQdT03qVE
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Re: Remote controlled vibrators

Unread postby Petrajane » Thu Mar 09, 2017 4:57 pm

Fettler wrote:This might make it more clear. Check out how quiet the motors are.

https://youtu.be/_eYQdT03qVE

Jesus! "Slow" speed you said!! That's gotta be eye watering, never mind at faster speeds! :o :o :o :o
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Re: Remote controlled vibrators

Unread postby stephanie_cd » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:12 pm

We-Vibe just reached a settlement in a multi-million dollar privacy infringement lawsuit:

"“Needless to say, the usage information collected by Standard Innovation through We-Connect is extraordinarily intimate and private. Standard Innovation collected individual-level usage information – often tied to users’ personally identifiable email addresses – and as a result … breached its customers’ trust, devalued their purchases … and violated federal and state law in the process,” said a memo from one of the claimants supporting the idea of a settlement, as reported by Law360.

Other data collected by the app included the “vibration intensity level selected by the user”."
[1]

So if you bought a We-Vibe -- including the Classic and Rave models, but apparently NOT the Synch [2] -- maybe you can join the class action lawsuit and get a nice chunk of the $3.75 million! :D (The obvious downside to this is MORE loss of privacy, as you put your name on a list or two somewhere, and even more people will find out that you bought one of these devices. :lol: )

The company "has agreed to pay up to $10,000 to customers who used a smartphone app that allowed one partner to remotely control settings like vibration intensity, Fortune reports. Those who bought a We-Vibe without using the app are entitled to a $199 payout under the class-action suit...." [3]

Just Google "we-vibe lawsuit" and you'll find PLENTY of recent news stories.

[1]-- https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/13/internet_of_dildos_firm_3_75m_privacy_lawsuit/

[2] -- http://fortune.com/2017/03/10/sex-toy-maker-settlement-smart-vibrator-lawsuit/

[3] -- http://www.newser.com/story/239652/makers-of-smart-vibrator-settle-privacy-lawsuit.html
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Re: Remote controlled vibrators

Unread postby justDIY » Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:42 pm

Wow an rc airplane motor! Aren't those rated in the tens of thousands of rpm? It's three phase right, can you reflash the ESC timing for say 100 to 5000 rpm?
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Re: Remote controlled vibrators

Unread postby Fettler » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:27 am

You can program some things on the ESC but it's mainly just to improve efficiency. Any little brushes motor will work just fine once you get the counter weight on there. I think my balance weight is bigger than standard hitachi so on slow speed (10rpm) it had a nice wobble motion.
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Re: Remote controlled vibrators

Unread postby cgwm » Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:39 pm

Hi alltogether :)

stephanie_cd wrote:We-Vibe just reached a settlement in a multi-million dollar privacy infringement lawsuit:


well.. no wonder this would happen at some point. When i heard it the first time they'd share privacy information across their servers, i already though about consequences like this...
As soon as i see "this app requires gps coordinates"... yeah.. right.. for a vibrator ;-)
But thanks a lot for the links.. pretty interesting!

Fettler wrote:You can program some things on the ESC but it's mainly just to improve efficiency. Any little brushes motor will work just fine once you get the counter weight on there. I think my balance weight is bigger than standard hitachi so on slow speed (10rpm) it had a nice wobble motion.


Fettler: Thanks a lot for all the insights on your setup. This really sounds very interesting, although still too big for my purposes :D

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Re: Remote controlled vibrators

Unread postby justDIY » Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:30 pm

Have any of you messed around with connecting a solenoid to a DAC via a small class D amplifier chip? I was thinking a custom ac waveform would thrust the plunger in an out at varying speed, causing the toy to shake and not just vibrate. Combined with a small motor and offset weight, one would have quite a device.
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