Yep, I suspect the S&W style swing through cuffs became so ubiquitous simply because they are cheap to make in volume on a mechanised production line. Those styles with more bending, brazing or welding would be more labour intensive to manufacture, but they do have a certain style to them which I find more interesting than modern style cuffs.Stahlketten wrote: ↑25 Nov 2024, 09:34 As for "Hot y work", most of the older Tower cuffs had chains that were forge welded as did the Hiatt Darby cuffs. The modern Indian copies of Darby cuffs are generally just brazed.
Yep, but looking at that 104 key, while I'm sure it would defeat a sewing needle, it looks like a suitably bent paper clip would do the trick, although it would be a tricky bend to do without a pair of needle-nosed pliers. I've not handled a pair so there might be something about them I'm missing, but from this distance I'm not impressed. I actually like the model 94 lock more, but it again requires the key to double-lock ... and the first link I found about it was how to pick them, To be fair it did need to be picked, with tools you might not have to hand. I mean I'm sure the cylinder locks on my HSS9 knock-offs can be picked too with a proper tension tool and pick, but I'm not complaining about those ... again, apart from the fact I need the cylinder key to both engage and disengage the double lock.If it bothers you that S&W handcuffs can be picked with just a bent sewing pin, I suggest you get a pair of the old S&W Model 94 with the barrel keys or the more modern S&W Model 104 that takes a non-standard key.
(I really think there are just more and better games available if one can lock and double lock the cuffs without the keys present, e.g. in a lockbox or under the control of a partner. Law enforcement requirements are, obviously, different.)
I'd clearly forgotten that thread - I got the idea a year or two ago from someone on FetLife.As for drilling out the double lock slot for a padlock, I did that a few years back and documented the results here with photographs